The Cons and Spoils of Online Dating

The Spoiled Effects of Online Dating

This article may not be what you expect it addresses the expectations we have regarding all sorts of relationship questions,dating,new friends,long-term dating,short-term dating,activity partners,long-distance,pen pals,casual sex,long term relationships,and marriage.

Imagine living 200 years living in a small European village or hamlet where may be there were 200 people living,consider that the traditional Chinese unit based in their tax code was ten families as the smallest it could get. Consider people lived there relatively in the same geographic areas where they died,that traveling great generally was out of the question and if it occurred it put you in history books. On e of the great advances for the liberalization of sex and relationships was the automobile where couples for the weekend romance or a illicit adulterous rendezvous  could all take trips and be out of the staring glares of those who watchfully saw you. Out of sight in what is considered even today social pressure,where at great distances lengths the “taboos”of inter-racial,or marginalized  sexual liaisons occur. Away from the peering eyes of family,adult,spousal,churches,associates,local community and employees et cetera.

Further imagine placing your husband or wife in the exclusive company of many,many,people many of whom are fairly attractive,intelligent,clever,resourceful,motivated people where they can be seduced and there you begin to find the root of the problem of online dating. Not that they can not be trusted no,no,but in that they can view a greater variety of the spice of life. Not very good situation right? Ah depends.

In searching online for some sort of relationship or encounter there is a problem where  standards of what is acceptable is based on the availability of those encounters,as you very well can not all so readily have chance encounters where you have little chance of success. As with gene pools the question of dynamics is governed by the question of diversity. I can imagine if you were the American in China,or the only Chinese person in American you would be one hell of a hot commodity,perhaps I am wrong because people also fear what is strange to them and which unknown.

In any case I am proceeding along the lines of easily conceivable circumstances,namely merely going online for a dating,dinner dates,encounters in sexual affairs,long term relationships and the Big M (“marriage”).

First for a few numbers,not that I want to fill my head up with numbers but invariably they are related to matters involving large numbers of people and these highly competitive and profitable corporate enterprises,which for those of you who wish to regard some of the fairly accurate data commonly available online I have included a partial list of dating sites and their particulars at the end of this article. [1]

Back too the question of using or how to use online dating sites,being that I have met a number of people I first came into acquaintance with online,firstly I wish to make clear several caveats besides the usual ones of nothing is perfect. As busy adults in the modern world especially for those with tight work schedules and pressures of school and kids online dating is not cure all panacea for all your ills,some people write well,some read well,some do not read and write well,some have charm and grace,some are neat,and some are slobs. One person’s slob is another person neat freak,open minded for one is not open minded for all,some are fast and some are slow.

So generally we can expect that even if we find someone to our liking that that event will only become know to us over a period of time,as some married couples after many years and decades,still do not know each other all that well. So it is not merely sporting the revealing bodice or bikini shot to entice seduce your lover,as actually some people might figure that is exactly what you are doing and will be pissed that you try that on them,or maybe they will just not be in the mood at that moment.

Do you remember your mom and dad when they hugged you as a child and that connected you to them by some of the most subtle details of sight,sound and smell,in what people call for good reason bonding?

DO you remember the scents of specific lovers years after you last saw them,and have almost forgotten their faces in your memories but remember those things,which  chemists and marketers often team up to find so they can sell you Charmin as opposed to the generic brand of toilet paper?

Well those details of memory are in play in online dating not that you can smell the person,or even hear,touch and see them yet,but they are in play,as well as the overwhelming numbers of millions of people who have gone online to hookup a date locally within a few miles of them if possible,and find that once in a life time true romance some where any where in the world. Don’t say it is not possible because one summer during my vacation for work at a local factory,  I traveled to Europe before the internet,to meet up again with a young woman met in New York City for whom I was quite passionate about,and later in life traveled half way across the US on another occasion.

Much like pornography might dull our sexual senses by exposing us to what may cause a greater and greater need for stimulus in seeing what many people can not live up to as standard,so too in expanding our pool of social networking resources beyond our local communities we judge what we have locally by what we see internationally. Where once it was the boy and girl next that we compared to those we knew at school and work,now we compare them to an international array of personalities,bodies,shapes,sizes,demeanors,personalities et cetera. That in which I am not saying to settle for what is not to your liking but in a question of indulgence where we once overlooked many defects. Such broadening of our horizons seemingly may spoil us ,and close our minds to what is otherwise quite acceptable,where such diversity for a miniscule statistical benefit,can,may or will dull our senses to what may quite acceptable. In discrepancies and differences which once upon a s time may have become accepted rather than rejected,in  judgments of differences lessened and magnified by different standards. Different standards which are some time better or worse today,when compared to those which were used only perhaps twenty years ago after all online date have only recently come into acceptance.

So this is a call for the exercise of wisdom and prudence in using online dating services which have also become a stalking ground of all sorts of questionable activity that would not be criminal in nature but unwise,fickle,casual and generally lacking,and very confusing. Looks or personality,charm,wit or money,convenience or perfection,where once the common stereotype was summarized by “loves me,loves me not”,today the dynamics are much more complex,spread out over large geographic areas,entire continents and countries,or which even go worldwide. As in who is the best women in the world for me,which is the best man in the world for you?

Imagine these online dating social networks as gigantic nightclubs where everyone has a private room,but for which there are 25,000 to 50,000 people online at any given time,imagine the odds,either betting odds or practical win lode odds of online dating success and failure. If you were in a night club how many times will you want to hear stories on routines of work,home,gardening,community involvement,art,cooking,the Steelers and Cowboys last Super Bowl match up? Be honest how many photos do you want to see of “Me and my Harley”,me and my dog,me is a low cut blouse,me in sexy lingerie,me and my kids,me and the ex,me and the family photos,et cetera do you want to see before you allow yourself to scream and shouts in going nuts?

At any given time there are tens of thousands of romantic love sick women and men online,where the common denominators favor the national average of dumb and dumbest where the error is to assume things will be alright as we both like the same things. We like the beach,we like camping,we work for the government,we are medical health professionals,we are teachers,we are divorced students going back to school. My European cousin once sat me down in front of the TV with the top ten finalists on screen in a national or trans-European beauty contest and literally she asked which is the best. ??? How the fuck would I know they were all cute,they were all talented,they were all on TV,so I might as well have tossed dice to pick one or threw darts or something as the bottom line was it was a crap shoot and nothing I could do would change that. In what online dating does that can twist the mind after a while wondering over the details for which these corporate sponsors attempt to reassure us in stating their empirical scientific basis and psychometrics of the same caliber as opinion pollsters which are always subject to mistake and error,by not merely them but also you in not being completely privy to exactly how it all works,and in not being able to control how some oen else answers those dumb questions.

Dumb Question Examples:

#1.”Do you enjoy provoking people just to get a response. Often. Sometimes. Never.” Well generally I don’t do that,but in love,war,and business,all is fair and if 1 my love does not response in something very important,or in business answers from an associate are required I will get that answer even at the expense of not seeming pleasant,after all the relationship,the kids,relatives,or my money is in jeopardy so I want an answer and I want it ASAP like yesterday,so like it is an obligation or responsibility and I don’t enjoy it at all (note so I can not pick any of the three answers)

#2. “Do you think drug use with your partner can be a romantic activity? Yes No” What the heck are they talking about recreational drugs where they should really specify also hard drugs like cocaine and heroin,and or soft drugs like cannabis (including medical marijuana),or if someone needed Viagra,psych meds,sinus and headache medications. (note so I can not pick any of the answers)

#3.”Are you happy with your life? Yes No” Another what the fuck question as in what which day is it,and what was the time of day,doing what like “working?”How many people if asked this question during work probably will say they hate it all? be honest after all we all know that going “postal”is job related,and we are in our comfort zones at home (note so I can not pick any of the answers).

Going on question after questions,there is a another loaded dumb question that honestly normal people should not answer. No mater which online dating service was used there was always a problem which brings me to the next stone wall split second decisions,judgmental thinking,and most importantly communication.

So let me tell you I was born in New York City,where I was born,breed,raised and lived many years,on any given week day 9am to 5pm there are on average 25,000,000 to 50,000,00 people in New York City,so I am not that shy though my Myers-Briggs test results says I am slightly introverted. This is how it has prepared  me for life,as I can walk up to almost any individual in a public place and start some kind of conversation. Anywhere,any one,any where. though I may wish heavy artillery backup in some cases,as New York City did not make exactly shy though I have my quirks as we all do. So when I get 35 hits on my Dr. of Love authorized profile hey the more the merrier,though often soon I mind find out they were only were taking a fly over. No need to talk they were on a mission,and there was no need for conversation,like why bother,after all I am listed as a PhD no need to test that thing.

Though officially I am not a PhD. but seems personally is required to compensate for the fact,there is no other indicator as a guide that allows for one’s level of intelligence,knowledge etc. otherwise,as autodidacts can not easily be classified,nor honestly state their qualifications of international caliber without the pro forma a sheepskin indicated. Hell as Socrates,Pres. Abraham Lincoln and Gov. Alfred Smith achieve much including  high office,with only six years of formal education between them.

In short there is something missing if in public I can walk up to thousands of people and start conversations but online the IRF (Internet Rudeness Factor) dictates that people who would otherwise speak in real life avoid each other. Okay chink in the armor being some would say is that in real life people are more apt to not walk away because they are afraid.

Now I heard that people in Los Angeles are cold and many places are cold,but that is not the world standard as America lives in fear “clinging to guns and religion”(President Obama) as in most places in the world people are nice,while Americans say they are not most likely due to the UAF (no not the University of Alaska,the Ugly American Factor).

Constantino Arias'photo titled Ugly American,showing a 1950s Batista-era tourist in Havana,Cuba.

“Where Ugly American is an epithet used to refer to perceptions of loud,arrogant,demeaning,thoughtless and ethnocentric behavior of American citizens mainly abroad,but also at home. Although the term is usually associated with or applied to travelers and tourists,it also applies to US corporate businesses in the international arena.”

Where Americans bring those very same ugly attitudes home to apply them on their fellow Americans as prejudices that even affect progressives and liberals,in what is unacceptable,demeaning,pointless,“loud,arrogant,demeaning,thoughtless and ethnocentric behavior”in what is in particular part of the class structure of oppression in the United States.

I have paid for some online dating services and do not consider them any particularly better than the free ones,but after use demanded my money back as it was worth as much as those psychological profile examinations which tells you what jobs you would be best suited for and like though you should know that yourself. I recommend using more patience in exercising communication skills than you normally would use,that any one who does take the time to converse people online with something meaningful in the non-personal sense,like  abstract about the real world,can very well be a hustler,or part of a team of hustlers, gets what they deserve,or is up to not good. Lastly interestingly the free online psychological tests are great and probably I could find more of them I can savor:

the Myers-Briggs http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp
the enneagram
http://www.eclecticenergies.com/enneagram/test.php

So knowing at this time I have given my best summary of online dating that I could in the short time today that I give. Thank you hope you enjoyed the read if you have any questions or statements please post them as that is wjhat I read and answer first.

[1] End Notes

 

NameRegistered usersFree
Ashley MadisonMembers are matched up with other married adult members based on profiles.10,860,000Partial
Chemistry.com 

A sister site of Match.com,members are matched up with other members based on their profiles.

11,000,000Partial
Compatible PartnerseHarmony’s service for same-sex relationshipsNo
eHarmony 

Dating site based upon pre-screening using personality tests.

37,000,000 registered;750,000 active (2009)No
Gaydar 

Profile-based dating website for gay and bisexual men,women,and couples.

GayRomeo / PlanetRomeoWorldwide social network,instant messaging and dating community for gay,bisexual and transgender men.6,740,000 registered 

1,107,000 active

(last 6 weeks)

Free: communication,profile and picture views,search engine
Gleeden 

Social network,instant messaging and dating community for extra-marital relationships.

unknownNo: Costs credits to send and read messages unlimited about of times to one user
Lavalife 

One of the oldest dating companies in the world.

No
Mamba 

Social-network-like dating site,primarily CIS/former Soviet Union,but some international presence. Primary language is Russian,but all languages welcome (and searchable). Caters to all audiences

11,673,451Free: communication,profile and picture views,simpler engine,blogs
Match.com 

One of the biggest online singles meeting sites

96,000,000 registered 

1,377,000 active (2009)

No
Matchmaker.comDating service founded in 1986,making it the oldest of the current online dating sites.
Meetic 

One of the biggest online singles meeting sites;N.1 in Europe (in June 2009, Meetic acquired Match.com’s European activities)

42,000,000 

registered

No
OkCupid 

 

Uses answers from user-generated questions to find matches that conform to a user’s stated preferences.

5,600,000+ active 

(as of 2010)[

Free
Parship 

Dating site for people looking for a long-term relationship,using a personality test. Available in Europe and Mexico.

Partial
PlentyofFish 

 

One of the most popular dating sites in the United States and United Kingdom

23,000,000 registeredFree:
ShakeMyWorldSwedish. Listed as one of the top 100 Swedish web sites of 2008.No
SpeedDate.com 

Online speed dating site,where users meet via text,audio,and video chat

9,000,000 registeredPartial
Spray Date 

Run by Spray Network AB

Partial
Tastebuds.fmFree dating site which matches people based on their tastes in musicunknownFree
True.com 

Known for running background checks on its users to ensure they are not felons or married.

No
Zoosk 

Known for large international user base and integration with Facebook community

50,000,000Paying users have access to full messaging and communication with members

 

 

 

 

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WE DEMAND INTERNET RIGHTS NOW!

ENGLISH:
WE DEMAND AN INTERNET BILL OF RIGHTS: 

Why with all the lies of establishment politicians worldwide none has proposed an international internet bill of constitutional right? Representing corporate abuse and greed that is the farthest thing from their thoughts!

WE DEMAND AN INTERNATIONAL INTERNET BILL OF RIGHTS FOR USERS,WEBSITES AND HOSTS! END CORPORATE ABUSE OF THE INTERNET NOW!

END THE TYRANNY NOW WHAT IS IN MY MIND DOES NOT BELONG TO YOU
END ACTA,INTERNET HUMAN RIGHTS NOW! 

The pusch to legislate SOPA and PIPA has been slowed down but now is not the time to be complacent,as under a section of laws called treaties and executive decisions the governments of the world have shown their reactionary character by attempting to implement ACTA.

In counterbalance we should not have to fight these oppressive laws by piece means as we are entitled to codified right to internet use and access for siad rights and use we demand an international Convention of international rights for users,websites,and hosts.

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GERMAN:
WIR FORDERN INTERNET RECHTE: 

Warum sollte man mit all den Lügen der etablierten Politiker weltweit sprechen,hat keiner eine internationale Internet-Gesetz der verfassungsmäßige Recht vorgeschlagen,wie sie Unternehmenskultur Missbrauch und Gier,die am weitesten,was aus ihren Gedanken ist vertreten!

Wir fordern:INTERNATIONAL INTERNET GESETZE die Rechte der Nutzer,Websites und Gastgeber!

CORPORATE Internet-Missbrauch ENDS NOW!

DAS UNTERNEHMEN INTERNET Tyrannei endet jetzt
Was ist in meinem Geist nicht Ihnen gehören!

NO ACTA:

Die Pusch zu SOPA und PIPA Gesetzgebung wurde heruntergefahren,sondern verlangsamt ist jetzt nicht die Zeit,selbstzufrieden zu sein,als unter einem Teil der Gesetze genannt Verträge und Entscheidungen der Exekutive die Regierungen der Welt ihren reaktionären Charakter gezeigt haben,indem er versucht,um ACTA zu implementieren.

In Gegengewicht sollten wir nicht haben,um diese unterdrückende Gesetze für Stück bedeutet,wie wir kodifizierten Recht auf Nutzung des Internets und den Zugang für siad Rechte berechtigt sind und die Nutzung verlangen wir eine internationale Konvention der internationalen Rechte für Benutzer,Websites und Gastgeber zu kämpfen.

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PORTUGUESE:
NO ACTA
O pusch para legislar SOPA e PIPA foi abrandado,mas agora não é a hora de ser complacente,como em uma seção de leis chamado tratados e decisões executivas dos governos do mundo têm mostrado seu caráter reacionário,ao tentar implementar ACTA. 

Em contraponto,não deve ter que lutar contra essas leis opressivas por peça significa que temos o direito de direito codificado para usar internet e acesso aos direitos e uso siad exigimos uma convenção internacional dos direitos internacionais para os usuários,sites e hosts.

Nós exigimos uma BILL dos Direitos da Internet: 

Porque com todas as mentiras dos políticos em todo o mundo nenhum estabelecimento propôs um projeto de lei internet internacional de direito constitucional? Representando abusos corporativos e ganância que é a coisa mais distante de seus pensamentos!

Nós exigimos uma BILL INTERNET INTERNACIONAL DOS DIREITOS PARA USUÁRIOS,sites eHOSTS! FIM DO ABUSO CORPORATE DA INTERNET AGORA!
Acabar com a tirania AGORA O QUE ESTÁ EM MINHA MENTE NÃO lhe pertence

END ACTA, DIREITOS HUMANOS NA INTERNET AGORA!

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FRENCH:
NOUS EXIGEONS DES DROITS DE L’INTERNET:

Pourquoi avec tous les mensonges des politiciens dans le monde entier parle l’établissement,aucun n’a proposé une loi internet international de droit constitutionnel,car ils représentent l’abus et la cupidité des entreprises qui est la chose la plus éloignée de leurs pensées!

NOUS EXIGEONS:LOIS SUR INTERNET INTERNATIONAL DES DROITS POUR LES UTILISATEURS,SITES ET ACCUEILLE!

ABUS Internet de l’entreprise se termine maintenant!

LA TYRANNIE Internet de l’entreprise se termine maintenant
Ce que j’ai dans l’esprit ne vous appartient pas!

NO ACTA:

Le Pusch de légiférer SOPA et PIPA a été ralentie,mais ce n’est pas le moment d’être complaisant,comme dans une section de lois appelés traités et décisions de l’exécutif des gouvernements du monde ont montré leur caractère réactionnaire en essayant de mettre en œuvre l’ACTA.

En contrepoids à nous n’aurions pas à lutter contre ces lois oppressives par morceau signifie que nous sommes en droit codifié à droite à l’utilisation d’Internet et l’accès pour les droits de Siad et de l’utilisation que nous exigeons une convention internationale des droits internationaux pour les utilisateurs,sites Web,et des hôtes.

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SPANISH:

EXIGIMOS un proyecto de ley de Derechos de Internet:

¿Por qué con todas las mentiras de los políticos del establishment en todo el mundo no ha propuesto un proyecto de ley de Internet internacional de derecho constitucional? En representación de abusos de las empresas y la codicia que es la cosa más lejana de sus pensamientos!

Exigimos una cuenta de Internet INTERNACIONAL DE LOS DERECHOS DE LOS USUARIOS, WEBY ANFITRIONES! END abuso corporativo del Internet ahora!
Fin a la tiranía,¿AHORA QUÉ ESTÁ EN MI MENTE NO le pertenece

ACTA FINAL, LOS DERECHOS HUMANOS DE INTERNET YA!

La Pusch para legislar SOPA y PIPA ha sido retrasado,ahora no es el momento de ser complacientes, como en una sección de leyes llamados tratados y las decisiones ejecutivas de los gobiernos del mundo han demostrado su carácter reaccionario,tratando de poner en práctica ACTA.

En contrapeso,no deberían tener que luchar contra estas leyes opresivas por parte significa quetenemos derecho a derecho codificado para el uso de Internet y el acceso a los derechos de Siad y el uso que la demanda de un convenio internacional de los derechos internacionales de los usuarios,sitios web, y los anfitriones.

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Russian:

МЫ ТРЕБУЕМ ИНТЕРНЕТ Билль о правах:

Почему со всеми лжи политиков во всем мире учреждение ни предложил международный билльинтернет конституционного права? Представляя корпоративные злоупотребления и жадности,которая дальше всего вещь от своих мыслей!

МЫ ТРЕБУЕМ Международный билль ИНТЕРНЕТ прав потребителей, веб-сайты иСОСТОЯЛАСЬ! Корпоративный ЗЛОУПОТРЕБЛЕНИЕ ИНТЕРНЕТ ТЕПЕРЬ!
END ТИРАНИЯ СЕЙЧАС ЧТО ТАКОЕ In My Mind НЕ ПРИНАДЛЕЖИТ ВАМ

END ACTA,ИНТЕРНЕТ ПО ПРАВАМ ЧЕЛОВЕКА СЕЙЧАС!

Pusch законодательно Сопа и PIPA был замедлен,но сейчас не время почивать на лаврах,поскольку согласно части законы,названные договоры и исполнительные решенияправительства мира показали их реакционный характер,пытаясь реализовать ACTA.

В противовес мы не должны бороться с этими Жестокие законы, за куском средств,как мы имеем право кодифицировано право на использование Интернета и доступ к правам SIAD и использовать мы требуем международной конвенции международного права для пользователей, веб-сайты и хосты.

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Arabic

 

نحن نطالب بوضع قانون حقوق الإنترنت : 

لماذا مع كل الأكاذيب من السياسيين واقترحت إنشاء أي مشروع قانون في جميع أنحاء العالم من الانترنت الدولية الحق الدستوري؟ يمثل تعاطيالشركات والطمع الذي هو أبعد شيء من أفكارهم!

نحن نطالب بوضع قانون INTERNET دولية لحقوق المواقع والمستخدمين وتستضيف! END مخالفات الشركات للإنترنت الآن!

اقض على الطغيان الآن ما هو في رأيي على ذمتي!

END ACTA، الشبكة الدولية لحقوق الإنسان الآن!

وقد تباطأ pusch التشريع SOPA PIPA وأسفل ولكن الآن ليس الوقت المناسب لنكون راضين، كما يحدث في قسم من القوانين تسمىالمعاهدات والقرارات التنفيذية لحكومات العالم وأظهرت طابعها الرجعي من خلال محاولة تنفيذ ACTA.

في موازنة لا ينبغي لنا أن نكافح هذه القوانين القمعية قطعة كوسيلة يحق لنا أن الحق لتقنين استخدام الانترنت والحصول على حقوق استخدام سيادونطالب اتفاقية دولية للحقوق الدولية للمستخدمين، والمواقع، والمضيفين.

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Japanese

私たちは権利のインターネットの法律を要求する:

なぜ設立の政治家のすべてが嘘で世界的にどれも憲法上の権利の国際的なインターネットの法案を提案していない?企業の虐待と自分の考えから最も遠いものである欲を表現!

我々は、ユーザー、Webサイト、およびホストの権利に関する国際インターネット法を要求する!今、インターネットの株式会社悪用をエンド!

インターネット人権!

スープとPIPAを法制化するクーデターが遅くなるが、現在、世界の政府がACTAを実装するために試みることによって彼らの反動的な文字を示している条約と執行の決定と呼ばれる法律のセクションの下に、自己満足になる時間はないされています。

カウンターバランスでは、我々はインターネットの使用とsiad権のアクセスに成文化する権利を有すると我々はユーザが、ウェブサイト、およびホストのための国際的な人権の国際的な条約を要求する使用される部分が意味することで、これらの抑圧の法律と戦うために必要はありません。

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The Great Society Debate Challenge Jason Hurtado Daniels vs Andrew Stergiou

 

Jason Hurtado Daniels vs Andrew Stergiou Debate Challenge Poster:The Great Society

Jason Hurtado Daniels,has recently taken up space online,for the vague mention of views he holds regarding racism,in what seemingly Mr. Daniels presumably presents in a serious fashion publicly. What Mr. Daniels states only partially,in discourse,and as a challenge,he states matters requiring proof.

Proof regarding the racism presented as related to those involving Ron Paul that he did not present,and which relates to other topics in statements Mr. Daniels states personally. Mr. Daniels presents himself in his professional capacity as he promotes himself,as having managerial experience in marketing and business development,he vaguely describes “as having relationship in the within “the entrepreneurship community in Oregon and the Bay Area‎”(Daniels Google+ profile info).

Unfortunately most of us do not know exactly what that means,nor perhaps do we care,but where he engages himself stating in response to:

“The thing about that is,though,that a leader can be as racist as he likes,as homophobic as he likes,as whatever as he likes,so long as he doesn’t put it into legislation. Would you rather have someone who says homosexuality is amoral but supports gay marriage,or someone who plays lip service to gay rights but supports “traditional family”?”

Daniels toyed with the idea of a delusional metaphysical nature,that he presented which was at once devoid of empirical basis and foundation,where in effect he lent weight to the possibility,that an evil man is not essentially required to do evil deeds. That as if a Hitler,could be Hitler acceptably,as long as he Hitler,did not act like a Hitler acts. Now I find that amazing,where Mr. Daniels who is presumably involved with the day to day affairs of many people lapses in judgment to succumb to that fantasy of some strange form of exceptionalism,stating:

“Interesting point. If you have a pro-life libertarian,the public policy effect is theoretically zero,if he follows through on the philosophy that government should not intervene”

In a salute to Ron Paul whose video was the main subject in discussion Mr. Daniels again speak vaguely stating:

“The 10-minute video is about foreign policy. The anti-war movement from the 1960s and 70s would be applauding wildly.”

But why is that Mr. Daniels as you give no reason nor facts in distorting the “The anti-war movement from the 1960s and 70s”as if it were the corporate image commonly portrayed most often as a homogeneously stereotype of simple peace loving liberals,which no doubt you would love to tap into for your resume in need of credentials on the matter. Who exactly will be applauding? Who will be applauding wildly? Are you saying all people associated with “The ant-war movement from the 1960s and 70s”will be applauding? Or applauding wildly at what many have come to feel are cynical demagogic statements on the behalf of Mr. Ron Paul.

I take issue in exception to you Mr. Daniels,without my at first having a precise reason for doing so,except where I say otherwise that in that you are allegedly a well educated professional man,who is expected to better phrase their speech rather than to be consistently vague and elusive,as you are and have been.

You Mr. Daniels have spoken before in vague generalities,that with ego manifests itself as if you are empowered to implement your ideas at will as reality far from the truth,as you can not for it is not a matters of as you say thoughts that constructed outside the material reality of empirical facts:

“keep looking for body parts to stitch together a Franken-candidate capable of winning a majority,but not within the usual party lines. I think the Venn diagram approach is interesting. What if you had Paul’s foreign policy,Teddy Roosevelt’s antitrust populism,FDR’s Depression-era pump priming,Jefferson on personal liberty. Lincoln on civil rights. Clinton on budget balancing. Eisenhower on investing in infrastructure. Bipartisan. Thoughts”

Whereby picking and choosing,in what has represented everything that has been wrong with the United States for the last 81 years in lacking precise principles and ethics,needing a little Elvis,Led Zeppelin,John Lennon,and Janis Joplin,while they created what they did,based on Little Richard,Sunday Gospel preachers,Robert Johnson,Blind Lemon Jefferson,Chuck Berry,and Bessie Smith because corporate white people like you and Obama can always rob and steal from “niggers”and poor folks. Right?

In more generalities deceptively you state “racking up billions of dollars of debt in the half century following WWII has been a catastrophic mistake.”at the same time you expressed what passed for admiration for “Eisenhower on investing in infrastructure”So which is it in what you do not frame your references exercised without due diligence. Regardless of that  during that time in the United States it was a period that did not see America’s greatest expansions of industry in construction of the highly debatable National Highway system,as the greatest period of relative expansion occurred prior and during World War II exemplified:

“When Of the 6.3 million farms in the United States in January 1925,only 205,000 were receiving centralized electric services. The Rural Electrification Administration (REA) was created by executive order as an independent federal bureau in 1935,authorized by the United States Congress in the 1936 Rural Electrification Act,and later in 1939,reorganized as a division of the U.S. Dept. of Agriculture. It was charged with administering loan programs for electrification and telephone service in rural areas. Between 1935 and 1939 – or the first 4 ½ years after REA’s establishment,the number of farms using electric services more than doubled.”

You said:

“Talk to ten people who were alive in during the Depression era and remember it. There are not many left:but if you do,I guarantee you that at least nine will tell you that FDR saved the country. Looking what happened in the 1930s as a worst case is also why I have a hard time with people who whine about the recovery not being fast enough under Obama. I credit the President with averting a total catastrophe. We were in economic free fall when he took office.”

1. Which in mixed feelings I agree and disagree with you by saying merely that most people generally would have credited the Roosevelt administration would having made things better,economists state he saved capitalism from itself.

FDR was more conservative,who conservatively proceeded with caution,considering the prospect of winning three more terms of office,while he was also  threatened with a right wing coup by the 100 most powerful financial dynasties in America.

2. Criticism of Obama from the right and left differs,the right attempts to distinguish itself from him but they can not so they must relay on lies and dogma,and since Obama has betrayed most Democratic Party principles in turning the United States into a police state,while he attempts to buy support with his Bush like federal dollars.

Obama in continuation of the George W. Bush,and Clinton era policies he betrayed the promises for change that he campaigned on,weither it cost him money or not,he is a sellout,a demagogue,a phony and I predict many will sit out the election by not voting rather than vote for a dirty double dealing corporate rat like him,just to teach the next bum a lesson that it should not be done.

Though I agree perhaps (without seeing the fine print) with Ron Paul on the horrible nature of the “Patriot Act,NDAA,and the Federal Reserve printing money like the president’s personal piggy bank”

I also agree with statements like the one by one Oscar Morales who you were in discussion with when he said:

“Thinking of supporting Ron Paul?  Visit his congressional district in Freeport,Texas,about 50 miles south of Houston (my hometown). You will see:subdivisions crammed right next to the Dow Chemical plants ‎(because gov’t doesn’t have the right to tell industry where to locate)  ‎the Brazos River polluted,no swimming allowed ‎(because it’s not gov’t. responsibility to clean it) ‎unbreathable air (benzene),watery eyes,cough,sneezing (because it’s not up to Gov’t. to clear the air)”

Where you merely state antithetically that “racking up billions of dollars of debt in the half century following WWII has been a catastrophic mistake.”while sitting intellectually on the fence admiring abstractly,as a bourgeois intellectual without historical or material basis,the “infrastructure”it bought for corporatist state which was bought and paid for by mostly working peoples taxes,upon which now sits abstract thought of Ron Paul’s “foreign policy,Teddy Roosevelt’s antitrust populism,FDR’s Depression-era pump priming,Jefferson on personal liberty. Lincoln on civil rights. Clinton on budget balancing.”

Where “foreign policy”is based upon the needs of a neo-con neo-liberal neo-imperialist state,in what “Teddy Roosevelt’s antitrust populism”would of supported in the invasion of the Puerto Rico UN recognized colony of the US,the invasion of Cuba,the Philippines,and annexing of Hawaii (1898),where  “FDR’s Depression-era pump priming”did not do much good until the US become the industrial basis of the west fighting world war II;that does not question the slave owner “FDR’s Depression-era pump priming”,that errs regarding “Lincoln on civil rights”as Lincoln did not properly address civil rights or even slavery as he died April 15,1865,  “the passage of the Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution in 1865″was on December 6,1865,and though under Clinton there was a “budget balancing”it came at a great cost of successive bad administrations whose only consistency has been to defer,delay,wreck,undermine and destroy by war and aggressive foreign policies what was envisioned as “The Great Society”.

In what has of yet to be properly addressed since this country founding.

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Western Intelligence Agency Connects Wikipedia CIA MI6 and Green Party

 

LION OF THE DESERT,Rod Steiger as Mussolini,1981,(c) United Film Distribution

 

EVIDENCE CONNECTS WIKIPEDIA CIA MI6  AND GERMAN GREENS

I received watched Lion of the Desert a first class film staring Anthony Quinn of the Libyan story of resistance against Mussolini and Fascist Italy in its coloniaization of Libya. Lion of the Desert is a 1981 Libyan historical action film starring Anthony Quinn as Libyan tribal leader Omar Mukhtar,a Bedouin leader fighting the Italian army in the years leading up to World War II and Oliver Reed as Italian General Rodolfo Graziani,who attempted to defeat Mukhtar. It was directed by Moustapha Akkad and funded by the government under Muammar Gaddafi. Released in May 1981,the film was liked by critics and audiences but performed poorly in making money,bringing in just $1 million dollars net worldwide,a financial disaster.

Anthony Quinn playing the Libyian Rebel Folk hero Omar Mukhtar

 

No doubt distribution of the film was hampered and sabotaged by western efforts in Libyan regime change,that could not be disguised as it serves as a first class effort described by the Guardian of London as accurately “historically on cue”.

But as with everything these days when I am reading,writing,watching referenced material,I often go online and check out something about what I watch see,and do. So what did I see was:

Where several important key facts involving western intelligence,related to Libya,were found distorted,missing,and otherwise were found noticeably left missing,intentionally absent,from the Wikipedia article concerning Libya. There seems to be no debate at Wikipedia of the facts which are common knowledge,which I previously wrote about months ago,and which have been publicly acknowledged by many reputable western media sources as va;lid.

In common knowledge that is notably absent, or circumstantially missing from Wikipedia,and as such constitute important circumstantial evidence of Wikipedia’s involvement with western intelligence services,as the online encyclopedia,founded by the characteristically neo-libertarian/libertarian  Wikipedian corporate prince of porn Jimmy Wales:

What I found missing were several strikingly important pieces of reportage related to Libya:

1. A major story reported in many some of the top western media outlets,in that Wikipedia did not mention reported involvement that the US CIA and British MI6 had with Muammar Qaddafi over a period of seven years,where they the western intelligence services used rendition to clandestinely to deliver to Muammar Qaddafi politically sensitive opponents of his regime for interrogation and torture for which they (US NATO MI6) received benefits assistance and information from Qaddafi which Wikipedia is covering up even though Qaddafi has been reported dean murdered at the hands of his allegedly human innocent civilian militia government supported and armed by wesstern neo-imperialism.

2. The widespread use of torture by the NATO supported,inspired,funded transitional Government against the pro-Gaddafi elements which was also reported by many mainstream western media sources,in developments which caused the withdrawal of Doctors without Borders for what they stated was witnessed as routine NATO inspired torture.

3. Failure of mention that months after the civil war was reported to have finished,that fighting has continued between the NATO supported Transitional Government of Libya and Qaddafi loyalists continuing fighting by battles of a guerrilla war currently being waged in that country to the chagrin of many.

America spoke up as did the western media when Gaddafi’s government was alleged to use military force to attack NATO inspired fictions of unarmed civilians whom we later found out were provided military aid,material, advisers and troops by the French Sarkozy Right Center government,who had acted on behalf of the United States and NATO. Where also notably Wikipedia has received funding from NATO and ipso facto the United States through the conduit of the German government who recently expanded its use of that country’s military over seas with the explicit consent of the western intelligence tainted Green Party of Germany.

 

Hang Angela,Hang Merkel out to dry!!

The German government under Angela Merkel started undermining the traditional Green Party relationship to the left some years ago when it asked:

“How can Wikipedia be improved? The German government started a project today to train experts to contribute to Wikipedia. The goal is to write or ‎improve several hundred articles about renewable resources in the Internet encyclopedia. The project is funded by the German Ministry of Nutrition,‎Agriculture,and Consumer Protection. The German chapter of the Wikimedia Foundation is hiring a Wikipedian to coordinate the efforts. ‘The ‎challenge will be to motivate experts who have done good work in other projects to get involved in the community lexicon. As project director Florian ‎Gerlach told online,“Such expert reports are usually written,edited,and published in the normal newspapers or even on other websites. But ‎Wikipedia is radically different:articles there continually grow with input from numerous authors,who often remain anonymous. The end product is ‎constantly changing,and third parties can publish their own texts or even change yours.”The future authors will therefore receive some training to ‎help them work with Wikipedia.’”‎ (Slashdot).

The World Wide tentacles of the US Neo-imperialist Police State

But Wikipedia which has come under attack before for its tainted online content,openly walks into this scandal full well knowing that as such it has lost most credibility as an impartial online resource,as it has been previously criticized for.

“Although the policies of Wikipedia strongly espouse verifiability and a neutral point of view,critics of Wikipedia accuse it of systemic bias and inconsistencies (including undue weight given to popular culture and because it favors consensus over credentials in its editorial processes”(Wikipedia).

“August 2007,the website WikiScanner began to trace the sources of changes made to Wikipedia by anonymous editors without Wikipedia accounts. The program revealed that many such edits were made by corporations or government agencies changing the content of articles related to them,their personnel or their work.(Wikipedia referencing “Seeing Corporate Fingerprints in Wikipedia Edits By KATIE HAFNER,August 19,2007,New York Times”)

After which “Internet users have spotted plenty of interesting changes to Wikipedia by people at nonprofit groups and government entities like the Central Intelligence Agency,. Many of the most obviously self-interested edits have come from corporate networks”including PepsiCo,Diebold,Wal-Mart,ExxonMobil,Anheuser-Busch,Washington Post,CBS,CNN (ibid.).

 

That in defense of Wikipedia,Jimmy Wales,the ex-porn connected founder of the Wikimedia Foundation,says the site discourages such “conflict of interest” editing”(ibid) but which by inference his says NATO money from Germany is sort of okay after all he does mind if he has a mind.

Where western intelligence sources confirm that:

“The collaboratively written online encyclopedia Wikipedia,created in 2001,has steadily grown in popularity,credibility and influence to the point that it is now used and referenced in U.S. Government intelligence products *** Open Source Center (OSC) of the Office of Director of National Intelligence”(Aftergood,Steven (2007-03-21). “The Wikipedia Factor in U.S. Intelligence”. Federation of American Scientists Project on Government Secrecy. Retrieved 2007-04-14. Secrecy News,FAS Project on Government Secrecy).

Where they (Open Source Center (OSC) of the Office of Director of National Intelligence) created the pretext for US intelligence intervention in Wikipedia:

“Last December,according to another OSC report,a participant in an online jihadist forum posted a message entitled “Why Don’t We Invade Wikipedia?” in which “he called on other participants to consider writing articles and adding items to the online Wikipedia encyclopedia…. and in this way,and through an Islamic lobby,apply pressure on the encyclopedia’s material.” (ibid.)

The many phony faces of Angela Merkel

Just as the “Fachagentur Nachwachsende Rohstoffe  (FNR),Germany’s Agency of Renewable Resources,Federal ‎Ministry of Food,Agriculture,and Consumer Protection (BMELV), generates plenty of material where Wikipedia has become an important distribution channel for adversely influencing what the general public accesses and reads.

Where the issue of government funding affects German political history,‎foreign policy,or terrorism,in what is perceived that it receives special treatment,weither or not Wikipedia itself will receive direct funding,private funding,or by the biased views of established experts and administrators of the governmental status quo,just as Germany influenced the Green Party by promising to Germany’s nuclear power program.

At which I must end by asking “What had Mussolini done to Libya that NATO had not done?”.

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Cynicism In Keeping the Dream Alive

 

Cynicism In Keeping the Dream Alive by Andrew Stergiou

When the Republicans in Congress stalled on confirming President Obama appointments,most visually was the question of appointments to the federal Consumer Financial Protection Bureau  (CFPB). In what rhetorically and polemically much was made first by the Obama administration,then Democratic Party pundits,affiliates,and the party’s rank and file. One has to ask why!

Much was made by the Obama when there was a refusal to confirm the appoint  of director of The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau  (CFPB) which was allegedly “created to make sure that the financial products and services that  Americans depend on every day —including credit cards,mortgages,and loans—work better for the people who use them”(The White House Website).

But wait one second another federal agency,why was another federal agency needed when already there was the Federal Trade Commission?

In what is commonly a target for reactionary neo-liberal,neo-con,libertarian pundits could this be another example of federal pork barrel politics and gluttony?

“Established by the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act of 2010,CFPB is charged with overseeing the Federal financial laws that specifically protect consumers—people who keep their money in banks and credit unions,pay for goods and services with their credit cards,and rely on loans to buy homes or pay for college,among other services.”(The White House website Ibid.)

“The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau  (CFPB) was created to make sure that the financial products and services that  Americans depend on every day —including credit cards,mortgages,and loans—work better for the people who use them. The Bureau is tasked with making sure people understand the fine print that explains the risks involved in using these services,and ensuring the banks,credit unions,and other financial companies that provide them play by the rules.”(The White House website Ibid.)

Like most federal agencies after decades of neo-liberal attacks on the standards of decency in America the Federal Trade Commission like many federal agencies has done a very bad in protecting consumers,and the American Public. In fact as a result of my experiences involving the US Federal Government they seem incapable of doing very much at all if anything except cater to their associates and buddies taking up space wastefully in the Federal government.

How can I say that some might ask. Well I will tell you. I have complained to the Federal Trade Commission,the Federal Reserve Bank,and the federal Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. and I have been reassured that regardless of my complaints,that though President Obama can give away 9 Trillion Dollars,and Bush George W. Bush before him  can give away trillions,the Federal Reserve Bank can not and does not require banks to provide receipts for deposits into those banks regulated by it.

Furthermore in that in my complaints filed against HSBC to the federal Consumer Financial Protection Bureau  (CFPB) egregiously complaining that:

1. HSBC is representing claims for merchants sales of products nationwide in unspecified amounts of billions,that after being shipped by the merchant can not be ascertained as to being delivered,simply because those merchants failed to require “signature confirmations of deliveries”to said show delivery and receipt of packages,though the customer repeated requested and required all deliveries be made with a signature confirmation of delivery being required. Packages which allegedly were merely left unattended on my porch,and porches all across America,for which charges were made that HSBC was now claiming.

2. HSBC in making said claims seven months after initial orders were placed and though payment were made for about five months,in that the merchant and HSBC has refused to take action and so payments have stopped.

3. As a result of non-payment for good cause that no consumer is liable for products they have not ordered nor received,HSBC has systemically acted maliciously,in a vindictive disturbing and negligent manner,by criminally telephoning in harassment of the consumer three times a day,for over four months in what at present has been give or take approximately 360 telephone calls. Where the telephone rings and there is no response and then the caller hangs up while their telephone number is displayed on my caller ID display.

For if you In what is perhaps the latest in GITMO torture techniques. I am tempted to call this article “The latest Obama GITMO Torture techniques”“Obama Cynicism:Keeping the Dream Alive”.

4. In complaints the HSBC has for the most part ignored as all they have to do is state weither or not they have signed delivery confirmations for the orders they wish to charge,but regardless of that in any event according to the representatives and Supervisory personnel the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau  (CFPB) acts in such instances only in some role as a neutral observer as they state they are no a court of adjudication,nor can they advise you as legal council,nor do very much at all.

Another Federal Agency Without Power.

In what culminated in this instance with representatives and supervisors for the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau  (CFPB) stating that in this instance where HBSC did not take action  “all that can be done through their agency is file another complaint”and in respond to my question as to what good that would do they said “sorry that is all we can do”. At present the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau  (CFPB) in regard to “protecting”the consumer solely “collect[s] and track[s] consumer complaints”though allegedly it has wide powers (Warren,Elizabeth (2010-09-14). “FACTBOX-New US consumer financial bureau has wide powers”. Reuters. Retrieved 2011-02-10.”.

The present the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau  (CFPB) toted as an “independent agency”which without more has little meaning except that it is merely another do nothing federal agency,administered by Washington appointees and insiders. Another federal bureau agency to do what already was supposed to have been done by numerous other agencies that came before it,namely protect and defend consumers and the fabric of American society from the ravages of corporate greed. In greed that one can say is regulated by the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau  (CFPB),hampered by political appointees such as “The director”,manipulated “by the president and the Senate”,in that “The director must be nominated by the president and confirmed by the Senate to a five-year term”and has no real independence as appointees,and which can be further threatened and manipulated “while it is funded by the Federal Reserve”,the country’s central bank and subject to its whims and fancies and temporarily by the Department of the Treasury.

Further hampered in what is supposedly “checks and balances”which was as a concept never intended to be applied to every instance of government beyond the relationship of the Congress,the Judiciary,and the Executive Offices of the President.

Where “The Financial Stability Oversight Council,an inter-agency group of regulators also set up under the new reforms,will have some power to block new regulations from the bureau.”which does not lend in image or fact to its alleged purpose as “an independent agency”. When the C.F.P.B. is governed by another layer of bureaucrats in “a  six-member board of experts from consumer protection,financial services and other fields — appointed on recommendation from the regional Federal Reserve Bank presidents —  when those overpaid,over educated,over stuffed have no idea of the costs involved with consumer rights and protection as they barely ever are required to pay parking tickets,let alone fight them.

Allegedly:

“The bureau will write and enforce rules for banks and other firms,aiming to protect consumers from deceptive and abusive loans and other financial products and services. It will be able to conduct examinations of banks and seek information from other firms about consumer-related business. It will monitor and report on markets for consumer financial goods and services,ranging from payday loans to check cashing shops,and how consumers interact with them. *** In doing its work,the bureau will consolidate existing consumer protection programs now scattered across several agencies widely criticized for doing a poor job in the past.”

But at present merely picks up  ”to consolidate employees and responsibilities from a number of other federal regulatory bodies,including the Federal Reserve,the Federal Trade Commission,the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation and even the Department of Housing and Urban Development”

(Bureau of Consumer Financial Protection,topics.nytimes.com Updated:Dec. 8,2011),http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/c/consumer_financial_protection_bureau/index.html?inline=nyt-org)

Where the Federal Trade Commission generally tells the public it is merely where you can file a complaint when they do not exercise enforcement proceedings for anything but for statistical and future study.

In the systemic gender,racial and class bias that permeates Washington DC that saw the impressively educated,talented,creative and well motivated Elizabeth Warren, as well as the equally impressive Raj Date passed over by President Obama. In hopes of a Congressional compromise,that President Obama questionably appointed Richard Cordray (another “stupid white man”Michael Moore’s punch line) where none of these appointees would have sufficed at all  to protect consumers in the first place.

Where currently the question is in my instance the complete and thorough subversion of the Unites States government,has occurred by the actions of HSBC,named in my complaints to the federal government,commonly known as HSBC,properly aka HSBC Holdings plc,a British multinational banking and financial services company headquartered in London,United Kingdom. Where HSBC as of 2011 was the world’s second-largest banking and financial services group and second-largest public company according to a composite measure by Forbes magazine which is allowed to harass and terrorize and stalk customers starting at 8:30am,12:30pm,up until 9:00pm,with out them even answering the phone when it is picked up.

In terrorism,that the terrorist HSBC,acts out as a universal bank,organized within four business groups,with 7,500 offices in 87 countries and territories across Africa,Asia,Europe,North America and South America,of which I am only one of its approx 100 million customers,dealing with an institution as June 30,2010,having assets of valued over $2.418 trillion,(50% Europe,25% in the Americas,and 25% in Asia.

The final part of my argument,in comment addressed to my neo-liberal,right-wing,libertarian. neo-con liberal adversaries is this:if this is how corporations act in abuse under the law of weak government,in the power corporations have to do so,without government there is no limit to abuse by corporations,in what does not distinguish them as corporations (HSBC) from common thugs and extortionists,within the frame work of  weak government and corrupt judges which pretends does not exist,and president Obama cynically pretends is not the case as he is doing something. What I don’t know!

Not supporting but to express truthfully in stating even fascist and military governments have in the past provided better protections for its citizens,in government acting in fear of the masses and the threat of revolution,even if for the wrong reasons as president acts in kind to garner support for his re-election bid where the trains should be  required to “run on time”without making it a federal court case.

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